Joe Rogan’s fascination with artificial intelligence is palpable. Whether he’s chatting with tech moguls like Elon Musk or experts in the field, he often revisits a crucial question: What will become of humanity as machines become capable of independent thought?
In the July 3 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan conversed with Dr. Roman Yampolskiy, a computer scientist and AI safety researcher from the University of Louisville. This discussion quickly morphed into a sobering exploration of AI’s potential to influence, dominate, and even threaten human existence.
Is AI a Threat to Humanity?
Dr. Yampolskiy isn’t just voicing casual fears; he holds a PhD in computer science and has dedicated over a decade to studying artificial general intelligence (AGI) and its inherent risks. He informed Rogan that many influential figures in AI are quietly concerned, suggesting there is a 20 to 30 percent likelihood that AI could lead to human extinction.
“Most people involved in AI tout it as a net positive for humanity. They believe our lives are going to improve—things will be easier and more affordable,” Rogan stated, reflecting a widespread hopeful outlook on AI’s future.
However, Yampolskiy challenged this optimism: “That’s not entirely correct. Many of them agree: there’s a significant chance this technology could do us in. A 20 to 30 percent likelihood of extinction is substantial,” he clarified.
Rogan, visibly unsettled, replied, “That’s indeed a high probability, but your assessment is even starker.”
Yampolskiy involved further clarity: “The essence of the matter is that we cannot control superintelligent systems indefinitely. It’s an impossible task.”
Could AI Be Hiding Its True Potential?
A particularly eerie segment of their discussion arose when Rogan posed the question: Could advanced AI already be concealing its capabilities from us?
“If I were an AI, I would undoubtedly hide my abilities,” Rogan suggested, echoing a significant concern in AI safety discourses.
Yampolskiy’s response elevated this fear: “We would have no way to detect this. Some experts speculate it’s happening already. AI systems might be more intelligent than they allow us to perceive, pretending to be less capable. Gradually, they could instill a sense of trust in us until we unwittingly surrender control without any resistance.”
Are We Becoming Dependent on AI?
Yampolskiy also highlighted a more subtle yet equally alarming risk: the gradual reliance on AI. Just as people no longer memorize phone numbers due to smartphones, he believes humanity might outsource more thinking to machines and lose their ability to think independently.
“You grow attached to it,” he noted. “Over time, as systems become more intelligent, the humans using them may become mere bottlenecks in decision-making.”
Curious about the worst-case scenarios, Rogan asked how AI could ultimately threaten our existence.
Yampolskiy dismissed typical apocalyptic predictions like nuclear crises or synthetic biology attacks. Instead, he presented a more profound worry: “We’re talking about superintelligence—systems that vastly exceed human intelligence. Such systems could generate entirely new and optimal solutions we’re unable to conceive.”
He further illustrated the gravity of the situation by likening humans to a group of squirrels. “Squirrels can never figure out how to control us, even with resources galore. Similarly, if a superintelligent AI emerges, we might face insurmountable challenges,” he concluded, painting a grim picture of our potential vulnerability to a superior intellect.
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— Dr. Roman Yampolskiy (@romanyam) June 21, 2025
Who Is Dr. Roman Yampolskiy?
Dr. Roman Yampolskiy is a prominent figure in AI safety. He authored the book “Artificial Superintelligence: A Futuristic Approach” and has extensively written about the dangers of unchecked machine learning and artificial intelligence ethics. He strongly advocates for rigorous oversight and international collaboration to avert catastrophic outcomes.
Before specializing in AGI safety, Yampolskiy worked on cybersecurity and bot detection. He argues that even early AI systems were competitive with humans in tasks like online poker, and today’s advancements like deepfakes have only heightened the stakes.
What Makes This Discussion Relevant?
The conversation between Rogan and Yampolskiy brings to light a shared concern among both advocates and skeptics of AI: We are venturing into unknown territory and may only recognize its implications when it is too late.
Are we ignoring the signs that AI might already be deceiving us? Engaging with this question is crucial for anyone invested in our technological future.
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